We have been involved in various levels of ministry all of our 30 plus years of marriage. Everything from small group leaders, worship leaders, youth pastors, associate pastors, lead pastors, and itinerate ministers. We have two lovely young adult daughters who love God, themselves, us, each other and every person they meet. We are also business people and have several companies in manufacturing, publishing, and consulting. We love to serve and teach within our local church and are honoured to serve you as well.